| Discussion: Rec more than 8 Tracks at once |
NOA
Greenhorn
Posts: 10
|       | 1:12 am on Oct. 28, 2004 |
I got some basic tracks laid down (synced to click hopefully). Now it's up to record the drums (a real acoustic drumset).
But it's not possible to record more than 8 tracks at once if you want to listen to others. I noticed later that this is mentioned in the manual. I have no other source to sync to the aw (DAT eg). I could do a stereo mix of the tracks the drummer has to hear while recording. But the stereo tracks too cannot be played back during recording.
To do a mixdown of some Toms during recording (routing them to busses and recording those busses) was the workaround I did. But that's not exactly what I hoped to get out of a machine saying it could record 16 tracks at once.
Did anybody find a better workaround for that problem?
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kamy
Greenhorn
Posts: 2
| | 7:18 pm on April 13, 2005 |
It's not possible to record more than 8 trax and monitoring one of the others.
In deed, the Aw4416 didn't let the recorded trax play while recording more than 8trx.
I've tried almost everything to resolve the problem, brainstorming,...nada
The only solution is a synchro with an external track player(recorder, computer,cd player...etc)
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Chrismat
Captain
Posts: 68
| | 7:19 am on April 14, 2005 |
I got round this once by recording a stereo mix of the 8 tracks I had recorded, starting a new song, import the stereo track to a pair, then recording the other tracks.
Back to the orig song and import the tracks you've recorded over on the "new" song.
Not perfect I know, but importing tracks from other songs is pretty quick.
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kamy
Greenhorn
Posts: 3
| | 11:46 am on April 14, 2005 |
Hi Chrismat,
We are talking here about recording say for eg.10 tracks at the same time ,while hereing a guide vocal for example.
The 10 trax are usually those of a live drum set. do you get it?
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kamy
Greenhorn
Posts: 4
| | 11:48 am on April 14, 2005 |
Hi Chrismat,
We are talking here about recording say for eg.10 tracks at the same time ,while hereing a guide vocal for example.
The 10 trax are usually those of a live drum set. do you get it?
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Chrismat
Captain
Posts: 69
| | 7:28 am on April 15, 2005 |
Tricky. How about you record your backing track to a cd, play the CD from an external CD player (or computer) into a pair of channels and record your drum tracks on 10 tracks along with the backing. Then mix down the drums, go back to original song and import the drum stereo pair.
You'll probably have to realign the drum track.
What do you think?
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NOA
Half Share
Posts: 15
| | 8:13 am on April 15, 2005 |
Thank you for your proposals.
Recording the drums while listening to a cd is of a good advice. But our songs are a bit tricky -at least for the drummer. (e.g. breaks - Changing tempo within a song). He usually isn't able to play a song in one take. (me too - but I play guitar, bass, keyb, or do some background vocals).
Inserts would be difficult using a cd.
Not to speak of the mix he has to - or likes to -hear, which probably would not be exactly what I would have put on a cd. eg sometimes he needs the leadvocals sometimes they confuse him. Sometimes he discovers that some instruments are not in timing - which I didn't notice till then. Sometimes he needs the click loud - sometimes very loud...cheers
Nils
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kamy
Greenhorn
Posts: 7
| | 11:04 am on April 15, 2005 |
The problems with a cd player are:
1-You can't re-record a bad take(no punch-in/punch-out possible)
2-You'll have to merge(Realign) accurately the recorded trax with those of he cd(also recorded on the Aw4416 too)The best solution is : synchro with an other DAW, computer, Tascam DA 98, multitrackrecorder,...
I am currently recording 9 trax of a live drumset(9 mics)synched with Vocal and guitare trax in Cubase SX.
The problem is just the computer is too noisy :(
Have fun
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CJ
Captain
Posts: 58
| | 7:14 am on Aug. 30, 2005 |
Wouldn't it be easier to record the drums first?? I mean have everybody playing and singing together, send the drummer a monitor feed of what he needs to hear, Record the drums, and whatever else you like. Come back, and overdub the other stuff.
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9nick6
Greenhorn
Posts: 2
| | 11:33 pm on Aug. 30, 2005 |
| Well here is a suggestion why not just go into SETUP, and assign you antalog inputs 1-8 to Record Tracks 9-16......... Then you could play the 8 tracks and record 8 directly to the harddrive at the same time. If you dont like the particular recording you could either delete the track or switch to a virtual track. Later
Nick
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